tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5974677.post3960660495715478744..comments2023-10-09T18:12:29.276+07:00Comments on Agelessbonding: Is correct all that correct?Ushahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00179239922869639391noreply@blogger.comBlogger14125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5974677.post-42023485057962615392011-10-20T15:12:33.966+07:002011-10-20T15:12:33.966+07:00I generally feel the same.
I AM Dark. if people ca...I generally feel the same.<br />I AM Dark. if people call me black, I don't mind. The real racism is perceiving 'white' or 'fair' as a compliment and 'black' or 'dark' as an insult.<br />I stereotype as hell, too; but I don't prejudice. There's a huge difference there.<br />And even if people did think that fair,infant like females were more attractive, so what? Not everyone is a beauty.<br />[Although, you know, I most certainly am. :P ]<br /><br />::And I don't think that female in Modern Family was offended, she just wasn't familiar with the dishes;Mitch might have been a little upset 'cause all that bantering on Cam's part was pretty unnecessary. :P<br /><br />-DarkyAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5974677.post-19325765929520931812010-11-30T13:11:57.229+07:002010-11-30T13:11:57.229+07:00Usha, I've been wanting to comment for a long ...Usha, I've been wanting to comment for a long while on this post, since I have different views on this. Finally posted on it, hope it's okay. http://starsinmeyes.wordpress.com/2010/11/30/does-language-really-matter/starry eyedhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02821016011330573083noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5974677.post-44714127702552358942010-11-24T13:26:32.578+07:002010-11-24T13:26:32.578+07:00Shaker, I agree it was probably started as a kind ...Shaker, I agree it was probably started as a kind of office created by Royalty in return for sexual favors received.<br />As for boys forced into sexual servitude - I read about something like this in Afganistan in a Kite runner. Little boys forced to dress like girls and dance who are also sexually abused by the men who "buy' them.Ushahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00179239922869639391noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5974677.post-56549984079766025442010-11-23T23:53:22.934+07:002010-11-23T23:53:22.934+07:00Echoing Dawkins, I'd say: "We are all Pro...Echoing Dawkins, I'd say: "We are all Prostitutes".<br /><br />Almost all of us rent our body (mind is, after all, brain) to whosoever we think is the highest bidder, some forced, and others unforced. <br /><br />Perhaps, if that rallying cry is spread, the social stigma attached to this profession will ease off.<br /><br />Having said that, let's call the institution of <i>devadasi</i>, for what it is - forced sexual servitude, be it to a god, king, or man. Calling a spade a spade, after all, is the subject of this post.<br /><br />Btw, does anyone know of an institution like <i>devidasa</i>, where parents forced little boys into generations long sexual servitude to a goddess, queen, or, a woman?Shakerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11635772878284730131noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5974677.post-59342973985395340732010-11-23T18:57:12.693+07:002010-11-23T18:57:12.693+07:00Dr.Antony: Speak honestly should not include coati...Dr.Antony: Speak honestly should not include coating words with your prejudices.<br /><br />Art: Thw whole irony of trying to be 'correct' sometimes is that by the way it is used the whole purpose of the correctness in language is negated.<br /><br />Raj: :) too much delay might make the response Un-correct. So better make haste.<br /><br />M: Yes you are right. I began to think about this during my trip to Bali. You know thay also have the caste system but none of the varnas is considered superior to the other. They are just classifications.They are different. That's all.They even intermarry. So the driver who took us around matter-of-factly said he was a Shudra. In Tamilnadu I could not use this word so casually. It would be considered inappropriate. That is because traditionally we have had the hierarchy among the various varnas and Shudra has been a pejorative term.<br /><br />Dipali:Yes. And by applying correctness based on some imported or manufactured perceptions of body images, they cause more damage and ruin the whole purpose of that correctness.<br /><br />IHM: While I do not have a high opinion of a society that creates a system like devdasi system, it is important to know that their situation was not as miserable as the in-mates of red light areas. They were attached to their rich patrons and had certain rights. But down the years the word has come to be a swear word equating them to people indulging in prostitution. Again should sex workers be treated with contempt itself is another topic of discussion.Ushahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00179239922869639391noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5974677.post-70442640083104613532010-11-23T12:40:38.668+07:002010-11-23T12:40:38.668+07:00Also I think sometimes new terms are coined to pro...Also I think sometimes new terms are coined to protect the victims of prejudice from words that have become terms of insult due to prejudice and ignorance. Like, mentally challenged or differently-abled.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5974677.post-9269813218196755482010-11-23T12:37:31.104+07:002010-11-23T12:37:31.104+07:00I agree with everything but I am not sure if Devda...I agree with everything but I am not sure if Devdasis were not exploited in the past. I read of how the King and the Senior-most priests had rights over them, they were dressed like brides and the King became their fist 'husband' and then the head-priest. But yes they were not powerless - they did own what they were gifted. And they were respected.<br /><br />I also agree with you about the ideas of beauty - being rounded and dark was seen as beautiful and our idols of dancers and goddesses prove that, so do our ancient descriptions of beauty. <br /><br />I think ideals of beauty in the West also included women with curves in the past.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5974677.post-35504997957857206132010-11-23T10:12:53.542+07:002010-11-23T10:12:53.542+07:00I do agree with you that political correctness is ...I do agree with you that political correctness is sometimes carried too far. However, this is probably a reaction to times when people were far less sensitive in their speech and could be offensive and hurtful. Words like 'nigger' and 'fatso' were commonly used and were offensive.<br />I hope we soon reach a happy medium, in which we call a spade a spade, rather than either a digging implement, or a bloody shovel!dipalihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01070862196307376073noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5974677.post-15033812587036338592010-11-23T01:12:43.191+07:002010-11-23T01:12:43.191+07:00"Is correct all that correct"? Not at al..."Is correct all that correct"? Not at all - it is a matter of perception .What's sauce for the goose is not always sauce for the gander .Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14157665564024320442noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5974677.post-54302660439983211812010-11-22T23:29:50.040+07:002010-11-22T23:29:50.040+07:00I am trying to formulate a correct response to thi...I am trying to formulate a correct response to this post. Will revert shortly.Rajhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09367344161081393779noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5974677.post-56937088821563162272010-11-22T22:37:08.627+07:002010-11-22T22:37:08.627+07:00this is a nice topic... But I guess its human natu...this is a nice topic... But I guess its human nature to be biased and to be judgemental.Arthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00361938268399916452noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5974677.post-7917678489270100622010-11-22T20:52:12.874+07:002010-11-22T20:52:12.874+07:00"Listen openly and speak honestly"
Simpl..."Listen openly and speak honestly"<br />Simple rules for better communication.dr.antonyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16191095888228061156noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5974677.post-17922581372502465012010-11-22T10:23:36.635+07:002010-11-22T10:23:36.635+07:00Shaker; Thank you for your valuable inputs as alwa...Shaker; Thank you for your valuable inputs as always. I will carefully go through the site you have mentioned in para 2. Certain complexion and features may have been preferred but I guess there was no negative connotation about the natural way we were.<br />Re; Not acknowledging your ancestry, what you say makes sense. But why should the reference to one's ancestry be considered inappropriate? <br /><br />While man made categorizations such as religion and caste may be tools for control, natural evolutionary distinctions such as ethnicity, race, may be just descriptions and nothing more.Ushahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00179239922869639391noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5974677.post-79406848346572625532010-11-22T10:01:51.316+07:002010-11-22T10:01:51.316+07:00Usha:
I suppose ethnically we are not an anorexic,...Usha:<br /><i>I suppose ethnically we are not an anorexic, thin race.</i><br /><br />Who is ethnically/racially anorexic or thin? If you are referring to the"fair-skinned people", you should take a look again at the classical paintings from Europe. <a href="http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/d9/Peter_Paul_Rubens_075.jpg" rel="nofollow">Here's an example from Rubens</a>. <br /><br />Preference for the light skin and more generally neotenic or infant-like features (especially in females) is more universal than you might think. It has biological/evolutionary roots, and you will find plenty of material on this here: <a href="http://www.neoteny.org/" rel="nofollow">Neoteny, Autism, and Evolution"</a>.<br /><br />There is nothing wrong with acknowledging one's ethnicity/ ancestry/ origins, but there is nothing wrong in not acknowledging it either. Take the example of this Denver woman in your TV episode. Suppose she were born to parents in Chandigarh, and was adopted by a couple from the U.S., whose grand parents were from Ireland, Japan, Namibia, and New Zealand. What is her ancestry and why is it relevant? Could her refusal to acknowledge her "South Asian"-ness, what ever it means, be because she didn't feel South Asian at all, and not because "she feels that 'being American' is superior to 'being South Asian"? What is the ancestry of Sasha and Maliya, Obamas' children?<br /><br />Labels and identities mean what we would like them to mean in the context in which we use them, as I have argued here - <a href="http://therationalfool.blogspot.com/2010/09/idea-and-violence.html" rel="nofollow">Idea and Violence</a>. What is important is the idea behind their use.<br /><br />Ehtnicity, race, relgion, caste, etc. are distinctions created by those who want to control the lives of others. As Dawkins pointed out in a recent discussion, the only identity that makes sense is that "<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wko_kMyljVU" rel="nofollow">We are all Africans".</a>Shakerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11635772878284730131noreply@blogger.com